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| Eman93 4,750 posts msg #63056 - Ignore Eman93 |
5/27/2008 1:03:05 PM At least we still have a resemblance of a democracy, how ever corrupt and perverted, but the mechanisms are still there to instill change, and when the time comes and everyone is more concerned with no-bid contracts, than the NFL we will move forward as country. |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #63444 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
6/6/2008 6:34:48 PM President Obama and the Coming Stock Market Crash How destructive to the U.S. economy would a Barack Obama presidency be? An exclusive Newsmax analysis warns: There could be a very rough time ahead. Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy. Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending. Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress. In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. All of these issues and more are explored in Newsmax magazine's special report "Obamanomics — the Coming Tax-and-Spend Nightmare," by Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund. This Newsmax magazine special report gives Americans the first in-depth look at the Democratic presidential candidate's likely strategies — and how they will affect not just the larger economy, but your personal wealth as well. Indeed, Obama makes no bones about his plans to go on a tax rampage. Not only would he increase the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to as much as 28 percent, he wants to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire in 2010, which effectively raises taxes on Americans by tens of billions of dollars. He also wants to do away with the $102,000 FICA payroll tax cap, which means anyone making over $102,000 would pay an additional 7 percent in taxes on earned income. And the loan dividend tax rate George Bush implemented? Under President Obama it will be DOA! |
| nikoschopen 2,824 posts msg #63448 - Ignore nikoschopen |
6/6/2008 8:29:08 PM That's a real typical RWN trash talk. Well, you conveniently forget that American taxpayers dole out $720 million every friggin' day to support the Iraq war that Bush and his cronies should never have started. According to the The Washington Post, that's large enough to buy homes for almost 6,500 families or health care for 423,529 children, or could outfit 1.27 million homes with renewable electricity. So quit ure bitching, please! |
| johnnyvento 51 posts msg #63450 - Ignore johnnyvento |
6/6/2008 8:40:02 PM TRO, you have to be fucking kidding. What do you call a huge deficit? It's called a TAX on future taxpayers. A TAX that pays for NOTHING. Historically, the stock market has done as well or slightly better under D's than R's over the past 50 years. And who knows why you are relying on John Fund or Newsmax for anything, they have both been proven to make stuff up. |
| nikoschopen 2,824 posts msg #63453 - Ignore nikoschopen |
6/6/2008 8:55:55 PM It speaks volumes about how much he knows about politics! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #65301 - Ignore TheRumpledOne modified |
7/21/2008 12:59:35 AM THOUGHT FOR THE DAY OPEC sells the U.S. oil for $136.00 a barrel. OPEC nations buy U.S. grain at $7.00 a bushel. Solution: Sell grain for $136.00 a bushel. Can't buy it? Tough s**t! Try eating your oil! Ought to go well with a nice thick grilled filet of camel @$$! |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #65302 - Ignore TheRumpledOne modified |
7/21/2008 1:01:35 AM nikoschopen - Ignore nikoschopen 6/6/2008 8:29:08 PM That's a real typical RWN trash talk. Well, you conveniently forget that American taxpayers dole out $720 million every friggin' day to support the Iraq war that Bush and his cronies should never have started. According to the The Washington Post, that's large enough to buy homes for almost 6,500 families or health care for 423,529 children, or could outfit 1.27 million homes with renewable electricity. So quit ure bitching, please! johnnyvento - Ignore johnnyvento 6/6/2008 8:40:02 PM TRO, you have to be fucking kidding. What do you call a huge deficit? It's called a TAX on future taxpayers. A TAX that pays for NOTHING. Historically, the stock market has done as well or slightly better under D's than R's over the past 50 years. And who knows why you are relying on John Fund or Newsmax for anything, they have both been proven to make stuff up. nikoschopen - Ignore nikoschopen 6/6/2008 8:55:55 PM It speaks volumes about how much he knows about politics! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) ================================================= I didn't say I AGREED with it. I just posted it in the appropriate thread. Too me, the government is too big and the REVOLUTION is long overdue. But there won't be a revolution. People in this country are way too passive. The news media would call you a terrorist or traitor. Now, before you start with the AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, B.S., I say, "AMERICA, LOVE IT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT BETTER". When you have to pay the government about 50% of what you earn through taxes at the Federal, State and Local levels you are NOT FREE... you are an INDENTURED SERVANT at best. When you have to pay property taxes or have the government confiscate it then you do not own your property. Does anyone here remember watching WWII movies where the Nazis would tell you to SHOW THEM YOUR PAPERS? Well, guess what, to travel you have to SHOW THEM YOUR PAPERS!! WAKE UP AMERICA AND SMELL THE HYPOCRISY! |
| johnnyvento 51 posts msg #65478 - Ignore johnnyvento |
7/26/2008 11:45:29 PM TRO we can forget the politics if we can just stick to stock analysis. At least you are able to write filters, all I get on this board is douche bags like WSG coming in and insulting me without offering anything of any substance... who knew that just posting a question on these boards would subject you to insults from other members. |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #65482 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
7/27/2008 1:19:36 AM That's just the nature of SOME PEOPLE. Whether on the net or offline, you'll run into one of them sooner or later. Best to ignore them. |
| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts msg #68311 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
10/11/2008 2:33:20 PM The Great Bailout Stall, Part V By Robert Ringer Back in the late seventies and early eighties, they called people like me doom-and-gloom prophets. So, how does it feel for me to see my predications coming true? Lousy. As I've always told my children, "I don't want to have to say 'I told you so.' I want to help you." Never once did I joyfully picture telling the world "I told you so." I was focused only on sounding the alarm to help save the American Empire from total destruction. With the exception of the late Tom Snyder (and a handful of others whose names now escape me), most of the mainstream media either ignored my warnings (first choice) or waved me aside (second choice). And for a while, the majority of people may have believed the media were right. Those of us who tried to explain why the welfare state must ultimately collapse under its own weight (both moral and mathematical) did, indeed, look like "doomsayers" as Ronald Reagan came to power and waxed poetically about "a shining city on a hill." Sorry, folks, but it was all window dressing. Though I personally liked Reagan, and still believe that he meant well (meaning that he favored a free society over Marxism), the record clearly shows that, overall, many of his "social policies" continued to move America to the left. This is especially true of his last couple of years in office, when Alzheimer's was starting to set in and, perhaps, his advisors were making more and more of the major (anti-liberty) decisions. Now, fast-forward to George W. Bush, supposedly the most conservative president since Reagan. Bush is that fellow you see a lot on television lately, assuring us that the "rescue plan" will "help make our economy strong once again." He's the same shameless guy who not that many months ago was hyping another "economic stimulus plan" - printing up more money and sending taxpayers $300-$1,200 checks. And stimulate it did. By my calculations, it took most recipients of this "free money" about three days, four hours, and seventeen minutes to rush out to Best Buy and Circuit City to gobble up a few more electronic toys. Idiotic and suicidal, to be sure, but when someone needs a shot of morphine to kill the pain, it would be cruel not to give it to him, right? Okay, let's get real here. Now that everyone with an IQ over 23 knows that the bailout ... er, rescue plan ... is an outrageous scam, what's next? Answer: More of the same. Again, there can be only two endings to this modern American version of a Greek tragedy: An instant, painful deflationary depression - far worse, in many ways, than the Great Depression of the thirties, or ... A runaway inflation that would virtually assure the rise of a dictatorship to "restore order" to a society overrun by anarchy. As Voice of Sanity readers know, I've talked at length about putting an end to all government programs that are not related to the protection of people's lives and property. No government bank or corporate bailouts, no unemployment benefits, no welfare of any kind ... and, above all, a fifty-year phase-out of the Social Security and Medicare pyramid schemes. What drives people to vote for politicians who arrogantly and/or ignorantly pass legislation that makes those voters much worse off in the long run? By now, I think you know the answer: GAVEC (guiltism, angerism, villainism, envyism, covetism). I am a person who believes in examining premises when it comes to arriving at solutions. And one of the most important underlying premises in this case is best expressed by the populist phrase "the growing gap between the rich and the poor." I have never heard anyone - not politicians, not media pundits, not their guests - challenge the underlying premise of this highly emotive phrase. Not once. So, masochist that I am, I've decided to be the one to step up to the plate: When politicians and the media use the phrase "the growing gap between the rich and the poor," the underlying premise is that there is something inherently wrong or immoral about such a gap. I hereby unequivocally challenge that premise. Let us, for the moment, ignore the question of who has the wisdom and moral authority to decide who is rich and who is poor. To make things easy, I will go along with pretending as though we all agree on the definitions of both rich and poor. To further simplify things, let's boil it down to just two people. If one person had the skills, the intelligence, the knowledge, the work ethic, etc., to become far richer than another person, why in the world would he not continue to pull ahead of the person who lacks his skills, intelligence, knowledge, work ethic, etc.? Of course the disparity between the two is going to grow! There's nothing "wrong" with that. It's simply a reality. But, guess what? The "rich" person's success does not in any way prevent the "poor" person from improving his lot in life if he should make up his mind to do so. This is where the great euphemism for Marxism - pieism - enters the picture. When a Mad Mama McBama blathers about people giving up some of their pie so she and her Marxist cronies can give it to others of their choice, her words are based on the premise that the size of the pie is fixed. That premise has been so embarrassingly shattered by historic reality that I shall not even waste time on it here. Today, the so-called poor are living better than their parents and grandparents could have ever imagined just forty or fifty years ago. And that's a good thing. I like the idea of everyone being better off, don't you? And if everyone would just concentrate on his or her own well-being and ignore "the gap between rich and poor," we'd all be much happier and politicians would be stripped of their most precious vote-getting ploy. I could care less about the wealth of a Bill Gates or a Warren Buffet. All this may seem like a diversion from the recent government bailouts (and those to follow), but it is, in fact, the underlying reason why we got to where we are today. The class warfare game is the main reason why virtually all members of the Demopublican Party - including the current president and both presidential candidates - are able to get away with outrageous actions such as bailing out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, major corporations, and homeowners who shouldn't have been given mortgage loans in the first place. While America is crashing to the ground, they simply point their fingers in the direction of those "greedy" guys on Wall Street, "greedy" speculators, and "greedy" CEOs who made off with millions in golden parachutes. I can just hear Dodd, Frank, Reid, Schumer, & Company saying, behind closed doors, "It's the gap, stupid. Remember, it's the gap." The Fuhrer himself would have been downright proud of these guys and their incredible chutzpah, for it is he who said, "What good fortune for government that the people do not think." In Part VI of this article, we'll zero in on those greedy guys mentioned above and try to decide whether the time has come to bring out the tar and feathers or to simply shackle them with more government regulation - as both B. and J. McBama have suggested. If today's installment offended you, I can almost guarantee that you're going to hate Part VI. |
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