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johnp
17 posts
msg #94382
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6/28/2010 2:06:52 AM

I really like your posts. I would eventually like to go to dollar neutral setup. Right now I am trading
crock pot method where profit target is 1/4 of stop, anywhere from 1 & 4 percent to 3 & 12 and only trade one stock per
week (long or short depending on overall market trend and recent volume action).

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #94389
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6/28/2010 10:46:11 AM

Open prices for today:

DAL - long, opened at 12.09 (827 shares) = $9998.43
DRI - long, opened at 39.29 (254 shares) = $9979.66
FSYS - short, opened at 29.01 (345 shares) = $10008.45
MDCO - short, opened at 8.29 (1206 shares) = $9997.74

Long Trades = $19978.09
Short Trades = $20006.19

Just paper trading this strategy for a few weeks. I'm tracking this approach in Yahoo Finance, so I'll let people see how it plays out.

I am only going to keep one pair trade going at any time, but will report on the overall statistics of the filter trades to see how they also play out.

duke56468
683 posts
msg #94392
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6/28/2010 1:17:52 PM

Kevin thanks for the post. As usual it is very informative and well thought out.

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #94395
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modified
6/28/2010 3:58:53 PM

Paper trade update:

Sell FSYS (currently at 27.42) - crossed below the MA(10).

Sell MDCO (currently at 8.39) - rules say to sell if the short closes above the MA(200). It still is a good short candidate (frankly a better one than this morning).

Keeping both long trades for now. Will add two short trades to maintain dollar neutrality at the open tomorrow.

wkloss
231 posts
msg #94398
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6/28/2010 7:58:06 PM

Kevin,

On these strategies, does Connors suggest adding to positions as they go against you? If yes, are you considering doing that?

Bill

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #94401
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modified
6/28/2010 9:10:12 PM

This worked OK today:

DRI (long) – opened at 39.29, closed at 39.67 (gain of 0.97%)
DAL (long) – opened at 12.09, closed at 12.04 (loss of 0.41%)

FSYS (short) – opened at 29.01, closed at 27.42 (gain of 5.48%)
MDCO (short) – opened at 8.29, closed at 8.39 (loss of 1.21%)

Net for the day – gain of 1.21%.

Based on my exit strategies, I would have to sell FSYS (it crossed back below its 10 day MA) and MDCO (it closed above the 200 day MA) at the open tomorrow. Both longs are still in play.

Looking at the options for tomorrow to replace these two, the RSI scan above does not show any short candidates. However, ERII and VOD both showed up on some of my other filters as possible candidates (VOD scored a 6/6 on the Connors’ short filters, and ERII scored only a 1 but closed at 13% above the upper Bollinger Band).

These will be the two replacement short trades for FSYS and MDCO. Longs (DRI and DAL) are both still in play. Will buy at tomorrow's open, keeping dollar neutrality with the two long trades.

As to doubling down, I did not use this approach in my backtesting, so for now I am sticking with what has been validated by me on these filters - hopefully by reviewing each possible trade and only picking those that also scored highly in the Connor's filters instead of just taking them all, I'll be able to get a small edge (???).

EDIT: Since the market futures are unusually negative this morning (-100+ on the Dow) I will hold the shorts for at least part of the day, maybe selling by lunch to see if one can get a better price. Still think VOD and ERII are good plays as well ...

drew9
171 posts
msg #94406
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6/28/2010 11:17:58 PM

Really impressive Kevin! I have liked the Connor strategies but the neutral strategy could be very interesting. Can't wait to see how this performs. Thanks for the nice work!

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #94407
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6/28/2010 11:29:56 PM

No work is impressive until it has been traded successfully for a while - this is why I'm willing to post my thinking on this. Keeps me honest.

I like the idea of market neutrality in this fashion, since it is better than simply hedging against a loss by using SPY or one of the inverses. That "traditional" way pretty much guarantees the one trade will offset the other, rather than both being profitable. The combination of multiple Connors-based filters also make me feel more comfortable about the odds being in my favor on each side of the paired trade.

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #94425
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modified
6/29/2010 2:40:23 PM

EDIT: Since the market futures are unusually negative this morning (-100+ on the Dow) I will hold the shorts for at least part of the day, maybe selling by lunch to see if one can get a better price. Still think VOD and ERII are good plays as well ...

+++++++++++

Good thing I kept in the two short trades, although VOD and ERII are both profitable as short plays today (VOD is down about 1%, and ERII is down a whopping 7.1%).

I actually would have done better selling FSYS and MDCO at the open this morning and buying these two, as the system was designed to do.

UPDATE: Based on the movement of these relative to their 10 day and 200 day MAs, I am out of all 4 today at the close, and will enter new trades off the same filter sets for tomorrow.

DRI (long) - in at 39.29, out at 38.99 (a loss of -0.7%)
DAL (long) - in at 12.09, out at 11.32 (a loss of -6.4%)

FSYS (short) - in at 29.01, out at 26.29 (a gain of +10.3%)
MDCO (short) - in at 8.29, out at 7.92 ( a gain of +4.7%)

Net gain on these pair trades - (10.3 + 4.7 - 0.7 - 6.4) / 4 = +2% (1.97% to be exact).

The other short trades that were considered (VOD and ERII) also did quite well - VOD was down 1%, and ERII down 1.8% from the open, but was down as much as 7% intraday).

pirate67
99 posts
msg #94428
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6/29/2010 4:33:08 PM

It seems like you are working in what I was referring to in my post in your other thread: trying to get a higher return through the use of other indicators. I have been working on this for awhile and have had some success with these lines added to the Connor long filters:

Show stocks where the Double Stochastic(10,3) is below 10 one day ago
Double Stochastic(10,3) above Double Stochastic(10,3) one day ago
slope of ema(30) above 0

There are many "Connor picks" that will end up profitable without the double stochastic(10,3) rising from below the 10 level, however I am focusing only on the ones that end up meeting this selection criteria along with Connor's.

My exit point to let profits run has been when the double stochastic(10,3) reaches above 75 and then goes down from its peak. (the short criteria).

I have not formally tested this, but I have traded it successfully.

Interested in anyone's feedback/improvement.

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